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Magickman
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Post subject: Words, and their meanings Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:30 am |
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In ancient times mankind did not have churches and you did not have to "Know Jesus" or "take him into your heart," or "gain the Holy Spirit" to get into heaven. Though if you knew the chief priest or shamen really well he might let you have a glimpse of heaven. He or she would give you a drug that caused a halluciation, usually a member of the mushroom family, the red cap varity. Mushrooms,(Particularly Aminita Muscaria)Yes these little things were also quite a wonder. Where did they come from? The ancient people had no immediate concept of spores. So a Mushroom was considered a "virgin birth". Also they immediately noticed that mushrooms came after the rains and they would pick them in the early hours of the morning. This was the "MANNA FROM HEAVEN" that the Israelites would gather. The word "Manna" means "What is it". Well, after consuming it you would probably be wondering "What is it" as you were talking to God. Having consumed rep mushrooms a few times, I can tell you that talking to the God, or the Goddess is a very simple and easy thing to do. the effects take your mind into other dimensions. Warning! Red Caps are poision, and it is the poision that provides the effect. Quote: Scholars who compiled the exhaustive 10 volumes of the "Cyclopaedia of Biblical, Theological and Ecclesiastical Literature" Under the article "Church" also subscribe to this pagan derivation of the word "Church." It says:
"The word Church: The origin of the word is uncertain. In the Germanic and Slavonic languages it is found as follows: Anglo-Saxon, cyrica, circ, cyric; English, church; Scottish, kirk; German, kirche; Low-German, karke; Frisan, tzierke; Danish, kyrke; Swedish, Kyrka; Bohemian, cyrkew; Polish, cerkiew; Russian, zerkow. There was probably some word which, in the language from which the Teutonic and Slavonic are descended, designated the old heathen places of religious assembly, and this word, having taken different forms in different dialects, was adopted by the Christian missionaries. It was probably connected with the Latin circus, circulus, and with the Greek kuklos. Lipsius, who was the first to reject the received tradition, was probably right in his suggestion" (Volume II, p.322).
http://freedomdomain.com/Religion/anatomy1.html The word "Church" comes from the Goddess "Circe" (Pronouned Sir-Cee) which is where we get the word "Circle" or "Circus". She is known for getting men drunk on her wine (her religion) and turning them into swine. In Scottish, it is pronounced "Kirk". No one should dictate their view of God (Religion) on anyone else. This is how all real wars develop. All not-real wars are FOR PROFIT.With enough Knowledge out there, eventually people will return back to a state of self-interpretation of spirituality instead of being told what God wants or has said. The ancient people held a set of belief systems which were very primitive as far as simplicity but they were extremely knowledgable in their understanding. Even of the mechanics of the planets in our system, they had a great working knowledge of things unknown to modern man. It doesn't matter what religion you are today, there is a common underlying source of ideas and these ideas are what have come down through history. Therefore all religions have certain things in common and have all borrowed their current ideas and doctrines from older religions. This can be seen by looking at the COMMON SYMBOLISM.Now lest us reflect on the word WORD.http://bible.cc/john/1-1.htm Quote: John 1:1-3 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. So here we have it, The Word comes, then all is created. Words have Power, people, make no mistake here. Word: O.E. word "speech, talk, utterance, word," from P.Gmc. *wurdan (cf. O.S., O.Fris. word, Du. woord, O.H.G., Ger. wort, O.N. orð, Goth. waurd), from PIE *were- "speak, say" (see verb). The meaning "promise" was in O.E., as was the theological sense. In the plural, the meaning "verbal altercation" (as in to have words with someone) dates from 1462. Wordy is O.E. wordig "verbose." Wording "choice of words" apparently was coined by Milton (in "Eikonoklastes," 1649). Word processor first recorded 1970. A word to the wise is from L. phrase verbum sapienti satis est "a word to the wise is enough." Word of mouth is recorded from c.1553. source http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?l=w&p=10So, words are power. Christians, you say the Word "Jesus" a lot of times during the day, no? Ever research the Word, and the meaning thereof? OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY Quote: The English and common European representation, since the 16th c., of the Hebrew divine name Yhwh. This word (the _sacred tetragrammaton') having come to be considered by the Jews too sacred for utterance, was pointed in the O.T. by the Masoretes with the vowels ' (= a), o, a, of adonai, as a direction to the reader to substitute Adonai for the _ineffable name'; which is actually done by Jerome in the Vulgate translation of Exodus vi. 3, and hence by Wyclif. Students of Hebrew at the Revival of Letters took these vowels as those of the word Yhwh (IHUH, JHVH) itself, which was accordingly transliterated in Latin spelling as IeHoVa(H), i.e. Iehoua(h. It is now held that the original name was IaHUe(H), i.e. Jahve(h, or with the English values of the letters, Yahwe(h, and one or other of these forms is now generally used by writers upon the religion of the Hebrews. The word has generally been understood to be a derivative of the verb hawah to be, to exist, as if _he that is', _the self-existent', or _the one ever coming into manifestation'; this origin is now disputed, but no conjectured derivation which has been substituted has found general acceptance.
The following is cited as the first use of the form Iehoua (Jehova):---1516 P. Galatinus De Arcanis Cath. Veritatis ii. lf. xlviij, Non enim he quatuor litere [yhwh] si, ut punctate sunt, legantur, Ioua reddunt: sed (ut ipse optime nosti) Iehoua efficiunt.]
1. The principal and personal name of God in the Old Testament; in English versions usually represented by _the LORD'. Hence in modern Christian use, = God, the Almighty.
1530 Tindale Exod. vi. 3, I appeared vnto Abraham Isaac and Iacob an allmightie God: but in my name Iehouah [Wyclif Adonay] was I not knowne vnto them.
1539 Bible (Great) Ps. lxxxiii. 18 They shall know that thou (whose name is Iehoua) art only the most hyest ouer all the earth. http://www.iahushua.com/ST-RP/name.htmSo you see, the WORD you use, "Jesus," has not one thing to do with the original meaning of the Word. The Word "Jesus" could actually mean anything at all, even something that would be considered evil in any Christian's eyes. What if when the Word "Jesus" is "invoked" by a person, a certian power associated with the word goes into play. The Vatican knows who the real God your power goes to is, but they are not telling you. The Templars knew the truth, and the Church made them into millionaires, or the equivalent in those days, and then ganged up and burned the leader at the stake, a common Christian way of dealing with evil persons. The Christian religion is nothing more than a re-telling of the ancient Hebrew and Egyptian religions. There is NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN as they say. So-called “Judaism” is nothing but Babylonian Talmudic Pharisaism, which at its base is plain paganism, pantheistic atheism, a conglomeration of all the forms of paganism concocted through the centuries. The religion of the ancient Egyptians is known to have consisted preeminently of Sun-worship. Moses sternly warned the Israelites against worshipping the Sun, Moon, stars, and all the hosts of heaven (Deuteronomy 4:19; 17:3)So why do Christians call upon the "Son," Real word, "Sun" in ritual and worship? Whay do Christians invoke the Egyptian God Amun Re every time they end a prayer with the Word "Amen?" Jeremiah, who prophesied in the sixth year of the captivity of Jehoiachin (591 B.C.) describes the worship of the Sun as practised in the court of the Temple (Ezekiel 8:16) and that even after the destruction of the Temple the women insisted on continuing to worship the Queen of Heaven … “The ancient Hebrews, being nomads like the Arabs, favoured the Moon, while the Babylonians, who were an agricultural nation, preferred the Sun. But, as appears from Ezekiel 20:7-8 the Moon-worship of the Israelites, even while they were still in Egypt was combined with Sun-worship.” Son worship. Same Word,different meaning. The Sun, universally, in paganism, represented the male procreative spirit, the Moon the female. The weeping for Tammuz, and his powers of human and agricultural fertility, was a Babylonian ceremonial. Tammuz was also called Adonis, and the female counterpart Astarte, Mylitta, or Venus, according to location. The Goddess is said to have 10,000 names, and through my own research of her, I can believe that.
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Devillstix
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Post subject: Re: Words, and their meanings Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:51 am |
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Very well said Magik... Is it not curios that in Homer's "Odyssey," Circe was responsible for lulling men into docile and apathetic creatures? Of course this story was written roughly 1200 years before the Christian church, but parallels can be drawn. Also oddly enough, in Greek mythology, Helios (the Sun god) was her father! Quote: The ancient people held a set of belief systems which were very primitive as far as simplicity but they were extremely knowledgable in their understanding. Even of the mechanics of the planets in our system, they had a great working knowledge of things unknown to modern man. The way I see it is, people of antiquity lacked all scientific knowledge. When warm weather came, plants grew and life sprung into action. They did not understand the fundamental driving force behind production and thus ascribed an unseen physical being to be responsible for this unknown action. Sun worship (or Moon worship depending on your lifestyle as you aptly alluded to) developed and then all physical forces became suspect to be driven by some unseen being. This early process of trying to understand the world bred the original belief in the possibility of gods and goddesses. (On a side note, since you mention the power of a word. Is it any wonder one sins when they do bad? I am sure you are already aware of the root of the word sin and its original namesake...) They did however, possess a better understanding of how to live with and by nature. This is the aspect they possessed that makes them "better" than us today. They did not believe they had to force there way of life on others, such a beautiful way to live. Have you ever read a book called "Ismael," by Daniel Quinn? I recommend it... I have to ask, are you Wicca (or is it Wiccan)? Do you believe in gods and goddesses? Or just the manifestation of certain powers occurring in nature? I am an atheist, and as such deny any sentient being holding responsibility over the dominion of earth. But I do recognize the true power of the natural occurrences in our universe. I understand where you are coming from in regards to the various religions. I concur that they all know a little something. However, I do not believe their status as religious gives them this knowledge though. Knowledge is available to be known, and any one group who is perceptible to their environment, and around long enough to wonder about that environment, will learn a thing or two. So, on that note, what do you think about atheism? It is my assumption, that if you are indeed Wicca(n?), our understanding of the world is really not that far off from one another. Am I wrong? Have I offended you? Your opinion is valued. Thanks...
_________________ "Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day; give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish." -Anonymous
"Secularism is a religion, a religion that is understood. It has no mysteries, no mumblings, no priests, no ceremonies, no falsehoods, no miracles, and no persecutions." -Robert G. Ingersoll
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Post subject: Re: Words, and their meanings Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:04 am |
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Quote: (On a side note, since you mention the power of a word. Is it any wonder one sins when they do bad? I am sure you are already aware of the root of the word sin and its original namesake...) Yes, and I know that when Christians say sins, they know what what the word means. Sin was a God in ancient Babylonia. A Sun god, I believe. Correct me if I am wrong. Quote: They did however, possess a better understanding of how to live with and by nature. This is the aspect they possessed that makes them "better" than us today. They did not believe they had to force there way of life on others, such a beautiful way to live. Have you ever read a book called "Ismael," by Daniel Quinn? I recommend it... I agree that ancient man/womankind had a much better way of living, for the had to depend on each other for many things. The common man could not read, only the scribes and priests in the Church could do that. I am glad that I can read, but would revel if all could live in the pagan ways. Quote: I have to ask, are you Wicca (or is it Wiccan)? Do you believe in gods and goddesses? Or just the manifestation of certain powers occurring in nature? I am an atheist, and as such deny any sentient being holding responsibility over the dominion of earth. But I do recognize the true power of the natural occurrences in our universe. I understand where you are coming from in regards to the various religions. I concur that they all know a little something. However, I do not believe their status as religious gives them this knowledge though. Knowledge is available to be known, and any one group who is perceptible to their environment, and around long enough to wonder about that environment, will learn a thing or two. So, on that note, what do you think about atheism? It is my assumption, that if you are indeed Wicca(n?), our understanding of the world is really not that far off from one another. Am I wrong? Have I offended you? Your opinion is valued. Thanks... No offense taken. And yes, I am a Wiccan of many years, having first learned the ways in the 70s. A better way of life I could find in no other religion. I am dead against all organized religions, and believe religion is a personal thing, to be worn like a warm, familiar jacket that one had worn for many year. It fits me perfectly, but would not fit you at all. Of course, I only call myself Wiccan for lack of a better word. On the knowledge thing, and I think you know this already, knowledge can easily be gotten just by asking for it. I have been heavily "schooled" in the astral way for a good many years now. I was taught automotive engineering, and later computer repair and trouble shooting. In a few short months I gained a few year's worth of knowledge, all stored away, waiting for me to need it, and they it was there. I believe anybody could do this.
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Post subject: Re: Words, and their meanings Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:48 am |
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Speaking of words and Magick. The following artist is known as the Poet Laurette of the New Millennium. This song was on an album called Melatonin Magik, which was released Feb 9th 2010 (on the equinox). The words have more power than you might first suspect: Melatonin Magik Direct YouTube Link
_________________ The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. -Plato 
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Post subject: Re: Words, and their meanings Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:05 pm |
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Yea alot of interesting thing, I myself consider myself to be a chaoist, in a sense, which may offend alot of religions though to me it doesn't matter, basically chaoist do is they sort through paradigms and pick and choose commandments and rules to abide by and form their own religion, many religions were formed by doing this I believe, such as lutherism or catholisism formed from paganism with a few addons, as far as the future goes with 2012 I'm scared shitless, ever since I saw the movie 2012 I have been paranoid, I'd rather off myself with a gun that drown or blow up if you know what I mean, the government is fucked up even more if anyone's watching the news they are pushing healthcare and other things, and there are some conspiracies coming to light finally, anyways I know alot of stuff I'm posting and some of it I suppose could go in other places but I'm here right now and it's flowing right now so I'm just going to put it all here right now, as far as paranormal and other things such as that, my girlfriend is an atheist and even she believes in the possibility of ghosts and other things, she just either refuses to acknowledge the existance of a "god" or doen't believe, which is also funny my grandma is a hardcore christian who believes in "god" yet questions almost everything in the bible and has asked a preacher and pastore som questions and they couldn't answer her, and she is in absolute rejection of the possibility of ghosts yet swears she's seen a chair levitate or so she claims, anyways on a completely different note for bhang and jedi, I finally have my own place, and my own internet, though I'm living off an alotment while I"m looking for a job.
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_________________ Do not dwell , when you dwell in the past it is doomed to repeat itself and when it does it will be as if it never happenedWorld war four will be fought with sticks and stones because world war three will end with nukes!http://www.youthrights.orgGive a man a fish and he will eat for a day; Teach a man how to fish and he will be well fed for a lifetime. We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. -PLATO- Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. -PLATO-
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Post subject: Re: Words, and their meanings Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:19 pm |
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31337 H4ck3R wrote: Yea alot of interesting thing, I myself consider myself to be a chaoist, in a sense, which may offend alot of religions though to me it doesn't matter, basically chaoist do is they sort through paradigms and pick and choose commandments and rules to abide by and form their own religion, many religions were formed by doing this I believe, such as lutherism or catholisism formed from paganism with a few addons..... I agree, having studied and researching the various religions of the world I found common things in all of them, the most prevalent was Sun worship from the Egyptian ways of old. Quote: .....as far as the future goes with 2012 I'm scared shitless, ever since I saw the movie 2012 I have been paranoid, I'd rather off myself with a gun that drown or blow up if you know what I mean, the government is fucked up even more if anyone's watching the news they are pushing healthcare and other things, and there are some conspiracies coming to light finally, anyways I know alot of stuff I'm posting and some of it I suppose could go in other places...... Do not worry about the future, everything is happening as it should. We humans, or rather the Spirit that resides within the machine, the body, is very important, and we are watched out for. Our present reality is created for us, and is not real, but! we can break free of this. Work on upgrading your DNA. Practice meditation. Get ready to Ascend. As for the Healthcare bill, I doubt they will be able to push it through, and if they do...I fear a revolution. that is how I see it. Quote: .....but I'm here right now and it's flowing right now so I'm just going to put it all here right now, as far as paranormal and other things such as that, my girlfriend is an atheist and even she believes in the possibility of ghosts and other things, she just either refuses to acknowledge the existance of a "god" or doen't believe, which is also funny my grandma is a hardcore christian who believes in "god" yet questions almost everything in the bible and has asked a preacher and pastore som questions and they couldn't answer her, and she is in absolute rejection of the possibility of ghosts yet swears she's seen a chair levitate or so she claims, anyways on a completely different note for bhang and jedi, I finally have my own place, and my own internet, though I'm living off an alotment while I"m looking for a job.
-=That Dude=- Lots of people, lots of different beliefs. I do not have beliefs anymore, I have Ideas instead. Beliefs seem to be set in Stone, while Ideas can be, and are changed a lot during a period of time. Do not lose heart, keep looking forward, and know that you, and yours, will be OK. Remember, the evil ones feed off your fears and anger....send them love instead. Love is poison to them, while Fear is a meal. Remember that.
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